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Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:08 pm
by Skeomorph
Hi,

I've been searching without success for suitable E-marked lights for the smooth rear Type 3 moulding. I've given up and decided to make some pods for myself. As I haven't taken delivery of my kit yet, I'm not sure if what I've come up with will fit! Here are some pictures of a rough prototype I've made with my 3d printer:
Lights 3.jpg
Lights 1.jpg
Lights 2.jpg
Lights 4.jpg
The lights are LED units from a Land Rover, I'm wondering if they might need a heat sink?

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Re: Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:29 pm
by Weg
I like the concept and design.
What are the temp characteristics of the material?
How about a mounting bracket?

Re: Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:33 pm
by Skeomorph
Hi westendguzzi,

The mounting is built into the light pod, the pictures below show how.

View from above looking down on the lights:
Lights 5.jpg

View of the 'face' that bolts onto the body:
Lights 6.jpg

I'm not worried about the plastic melting, I'm concerned that the light units will overheat without being bolted to a large lump of aluminium...

Re: Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:25 pm
by Weg
Don't forget about the MSVA regulation that they must be 600mm min between illuminating surface.
How will this affect the position and angle on the body?
Tony

Re: Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:49 am
by Richard and Pat
The search is a long one indeed and especially for 'E' marked items.
If you live near or fancy a trip I am in Bedfordshire SG18 and have recently completed the fitting of the 'Vintage' rear end.
First pic: Glassed in aluminium reinforcement as recommended
Second pic: Testing look
Third pic: Rear set to correct mounted angle, on measured and squared of board to establish correct positioning of lamps
Fourth pic: The finished item

Re: Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:51 am
by Richard and Pat
Tractor lamps used but I did look at masses of alternatives. Your idea holds water especially in the need for 'E' marked items.

Re: Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:53 am
by Richard and Pat
Have you attached the lamps to a battery and tested the heat generated?

Re: Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:03 pm
by Skeomorph
Hi Richard,

Thanks for your comments and pictures, they're really helpful. I think my home brew light cluster has got potential, providing I can get a decent surface finish; as a high resolution print will take about 4 days so need to make sure everything's right before starting! Looking at your pictures, I think that once I've got the angle between the bodywork and the axis of the car right I will be in the ballpark for 600mm between the lights as highlighted by Tony. The only way to be sure though is to measure up my bodywork when I get it next month.

I haven't connected the lights up to a power supply yet (building that's another project!) but will do. I'm hoping that worst case all I'll need is add an aluminium disc between the light and the housing. ...

Thanks,
Andy.

Re: Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:32 pm
by V10Mike

Re: Type 3 smooth tail - rear lights

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:55 am
by Richard and Pat
I did look at those V10Mike as they are a good size and shape and have some Vintage element to the design. However as with every good looker they don't supply Amber lens types. The Amber lens is the sticking point in all the cases of those I liked. In the end I bought some amber lens paint designed to make your faded lenses Amber again and painted the bulb and the inside of the white lens of the lamps I chose which are from a Tractor rear wing.